I also consolidated the lists, plus added in some other things I forgot, plus my new purchase XD
Best U.C. Fed MS is going the way I'm thinking it's going to go so I changed that one too. After nearly 100 votes, the latter half of U.C. ran away with around 80% of the vote.
The Main Event topic was hotly contested and was an EXTREMELY close race but ended up with the 00 Gundam (w/o 0 Rasier w/GN Sword III) narrowly defeating Unicorn Gundam.
After thinking about it more... I think I've come down on the Unicorn Gundam side simply because of the technology. If the Unicorn could disable any of the numerous GN Condensers the 00 has scattered on the OUTSIDE of its body/armour that should, in theory, lower the 00's power supplies. The Unicorn, having 4 beam sabers, a high powered beam magnum, and hyper bazooka would be able to do that I think.
I predict a battle of attrition with Unicorn slowly dismantling the 00 until the finishing blow can be delivered. One lucky strike at either GN Drive or it's condensers and the 00 is sunk imo. Whereas the Unicorn can probably fight at high efficiency while taking high damage.
Unicorn, on the defensive, absorbs a lot of the damage with that I-field generating shield, lures the 00 in. Insane melee combat with 4 beam sabers at once plus head vulcans...
Yeah. I thought 00 but I don't anymore.
And for the record all battles are considered with the suits natural pilot in mind. So for the next poll (Hi-Nu vs. Strike Freedom) it's adult Amuro vs. Kira.
Strike Freedom with the Auto-Aim bot shoots the Hi-Nu to death.
ReplyDeletekira can't hit &^%# w/o his multi-lock system plus he relies on the suit to much. Amuro is a pure "newtype" pilots an MS like theres no tomorrow can easily evade beam spamming MS anyday. and any C.E. made suit can't battle U.C. made suit simply that C.E. suit can't with stand M.particles which U.C. suits emit that will render any MS useless unless made with gundarium alloy which i'm afraid SFG is not made out of. so Hi-Nu FTW!!!
ReplyDeleteOh god in before CE/UC mess.
ReplyDeleteThat said, Kira doesn't aim for vital points. If someone like Shinn can abuse that fact then Amuro sure as hell can even though Hi-Nu doesn't split in to multiple parts.
Sweet Bit(Draggon/funnel)match, Though I lack sufficient knowledge about UC and its suit, I'd still bet my @ss on the Hi-Nu. Though SF does have Considerable firepower and the Multilock. From what I recall though, the only time I saw Multilock used on one opponent was legend. Even so, I would say its pretty much an easy dodge for the likes of Hi-Nu, and SF is pretty vulnerable after multilock due to recoil,though does recoil even apply in space?
ReplyDeleteStrike Freedom Gundam can fly in the atmosphere.
ReplyDeleteHi Nu Gundam cannot.
Thus Strike Freedom Gundam will have aerial dominance over the Hi Nu Gundam.
Shoot the stuffing out of Hi-Nu Gundam with it's 2 rail guns, 2 beam rifles and stomach cannon.
What does Hi Nu Gundam have?
Bazooka - Phase Shift Negates this.
Beam rifle - Only weapon of Hi Nu Gundam that can hurt Strike Freedom Gundam.
because dragoons are dependent on the targeting system of the suit while funnels are controled be thought thats why SF can't evade them besides kira lacks concentration on the battle field with a newtype ability Amuro can play with his mind or make him go nuts... big deal on the stats! stats aint everything on the battle field
ReplyDeleteRemember what Jamil Neate says ; It does not matter if the bits are controlled by psychic power or whatever, at the end of the day it's still a machine which can be destroyed.
ReplyDeleteWe have not seen Amuro having any ability to play with minds or make pilots go nuts.
Stats matter when SF can fly and Hi-Nu cannot.
About Double 00 vs Unicorn...good luck to the Unicorn in just even touching 00 once it goes Trans Am and Trans Am Burst. I bet Unicorn will wish it never entered the fight in just after a minute
ReplyDeleteHi-Nu will win that fight. Kira relies on long to medium range attacks too much. Amuro's newtype abilities would enable him to easily shoot down SF's dragoons.
ReplyDeleteThe Dragoons would'nt be able to take out the funnels because they are computer controlled unlike the funnels which are psycommu controlled.
If Hi-Nu gets close, then its all over for SF.
Put them on earth which will remove the Dragoons/Funnels BS.
ReplyDeleteLet's see how will Hi-Nu even get close to SF flying in the air shelling it all the way.
have you taken to account about the m.particle? SF cant even go near hi-nu and if it does boom down it goes w/o even having amuro to pull the trigger. read this boy -> The main use of the Minovsky particle was in combat and communication. When the Minovsky particle is spread in large numbers in the open air or in open space, the particles disrupt low-frequency electromagnetic radiation, such as microwaves and radio waves. The Minovsky particle also interferes with the operations of electronic circuitry and destroys unprotected circuits due to the particles' high electrical charge which act like a continuous electromagnetic pulse on metal objects. Because of the way Minovsky particles react with other types of radiation, radar systems and long-range wireless communication systems become useless, infra-red signals are defracted and their accuracy decreases, and visible light is fogged. This became known as the "Minovsky Effect". the Minovsky ultracompact fusion reactor emit these particles so whatcha gonna do now? not even SF golike speed can save it from this...
ReplyDeleteRead this boy :
ReplyDeleteOnly Ships have Minovsky spreaders.
Unless Hi-Nu is equipped with a Minovsky missile(not standard equipment), that is a moot point.
In addition, MS have some shielding from EMP. ZAFT Ginns had some heavy duty shielding and thus was protected from the Gungnir EMP system which is way more powerful than the effect of Minovsky ability to fry circuits.
SF is still designed/modifed from a ZAFT design, to it should have some EMP shielding capabilities.
So SF will still survive some minor M.particle interferance just fine.
the reactor emit m.particle ala gn drives which emits M.particles "look it up" and only heavily armoured unit can with stand m.particle much to what i can say about any units in the C.E. era if there so heavily armoured why need PS system? know your U.C. tech before you preach about C.E. techs some of which can be very redundant in terms os uses...
ReplyDeleteGN Drive now emit M.Particles? Wow.
ReplyDeleteA unit does not have to be heavily armored to withstand M.particles. It just has to have EMP shielding.
You could have the most heavily armored unit ever created in Gundam with no EMP shielding and it will still fall to M.particles interference.
PS armor is for protection against ballistic weapons. Not for EMP shielding.
Know your Gundam tech before you start preaching.
"GN Drive now emit M.Particles? Wow."
ReplyDeleteNo, He said the reactor emits then like the GN Drive emits GN particles.
To whoever said stuff about the 00 using trans-am: no raiser, no trans-am. That's assuming the 00 as it was In the show, flaws and all of the normal 00 included though.
Even without the Funnels/Dragoons, I'm sure that Amruo is adapt enough to dodge fire like that. Watch Gundam Evolve 9, that's a fancy bit of flying on Amuro's part.
pretty simple to make a UBER AWESOME MOBILE SUIT don't you think ? I mean, if one day we'll have real Mobile Suit, those MS from CE won't work, simply because of their design, the firepower of the S-F don't match with his anorexic style ( he has a mega particle beam cannon in the chest how could it be possible, I mean look at the size of Sazabi's chest, it's huge to support all the intnernal mechanics to make the mega particle beam cannon work plus the cockpit is in the head cause there's not enough place ) so the S-F can't beat the Hi Nu because it's just a uber overrated Mobile Suit.
ReplyDeleteif this doesnt get to you then nogthing ever will you must be one those fanboy who just like destiny regardless of other facts people feed you here read this this came from the creators of gundam it self -> the only way to counter the M.particle is to install bulky expensive sheildings on the suit namely gundamrium alloy. now is SF made of gundarium alloy? NO! it made out of weak metal that has to depend on the PS system...
ReplyDeleteAre Zakus and other mass produced suits made up of Gundarium alloy?
ReplyDeleteNo. And they still seem to function just fine.
Why? They have shielding.
So it's not necessary for a suit to have Gunarium alloy armor to protect it from M.particles.
Go take your BS somewhere else.
they are made of gundanium alloy aka luna titanium get your facts straight read more about it don't just get your facts base on the show
ReplyDeleteFrom MAHQ,
ReplyDeleteZaku armor material : super-hard steel alloy
Gundam RX-78-2 armor material : lunar titanium alloy(Gundarium)
I think you need to read more about it and watch the show more.
If Zakus armor was made of luna titanium, the same as the Gundam, it would be as tough as the Gundam. And from what we have seen, it was pieced through by simple head vulcan fire.
mm... i smell controversy
ReplyDeleteLike what lupe said, the UC/CE mess...
ReplyDeleteor the different schools of thought.
Basically the UC school will go : "New Type Power and M.Particle rapes all!"
The CE school will go : "Beam spam rapes all!"
The AD school will go : "Trans-Am and Quantization rapes all!"
The AW school will go : "Twin Satellite Cannon/G-bit System rapes all!"
The FC school will go : "DG Cells/Master Asia/Domon/God Gundam rapes all!"
The CC school will go : "Novel Turn A/Turn X Moonlight butterfly rapes all!"
The AC school will go : "Zero System and Twin Buster Rifle rapes all!"
And there you go, the summarization of the various Gundam vs Gundam universes.
succintly put. i'll choose a better vs. topic next time
ReplyDeleteIt's like I'm PSYCHIC!
ReplyDeleteThough, the Turn types are straight hax (You know what I'm talking about if you've ever read the Turn Types notepad document floating around out there...hmm..I smell a blog post!), I doubt there's much anyone could do against Turn A when it's piloted by a newtype who can utilize it's full potential.
god knows if it were officially written as a gundam storyline Amuro would definitely win. You cant have a wannabe like Kira actually beating the original front-man for the entire series
ReplyDeleteI HATE the strike freedom. The gold joints are really dumb looking and a way too obvious way to try and make the suit look cool, but I would have to say that it would probably win.
Lupes pretty much summed it up.
ReplyDeleteGundams:
ReplyDeleteAtmospheric battle: SF wins;
Close range: SF wins, SF may use chest cannon or rail cannon if faced head on in a beam saber duel
Medium range: Probably even;
Long range: SF main role, SF wins;
Funnel/Dragoons: SF wins; Hi-Nu - 6 x SF- 8
Weapons : SF wins (VFS’s physical attacks denial)
Hi-Nu:
beam rifle x 1, beam saber x 2, ν hyper bazooka x 1, beam cannon x 1, missile x 4, vulcan gun x 2, fin funnel x 6, hyper mega bazooka launcher x 1
SF :
2 x MMI-GAU27D 31mm CIWS; MGX-2235 "Callidus" multi-phase beam cannon, mounted in torso; 2 x MA-M02G "Super Lacerta" beam saber, stored on hips, hand-carried in use; 2 x MMI-M15E "Xiphias 3" rail cannon; 2 x MA-M21KF high-energy beam rifle, stored on hips, hand-carried in use, can be combined, EQFU-3X Super DRAGOON mobile weapon wings (mounts 8 x MA-80V beam assault cannon)
Cockpit: Hi-Nu wins; Panoramic monitor
Shield: SF wins
Hi-Nu:
1 phisical shield
SF :
Variable Phase Shift
2 beam shield
Special attributes: Probably even;
Hi-Nu:
Psycoframe
Funnel beam shield
SF :
VFS
Golden inner frame (unknown function)
"Voiture Lumiere" propulsion system
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Pilots:
Good points:
Amuro:
Experience
New-type
Good in duels
very adaptive
Kira:
Pin point accuracy
Coordinator
Seed user
Hit-run attacks
Good against numbers
Bad points:
Amuro:
????
Kira:
Bad defender (battle efficiency can drops drastically, when protecting someone close, but probably amuro wont exploit this situation)
Life preservation principles (probably amuro would exploit this situation)
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Please Busterbeam make the next duel with Infinite justice
... why Busterbeam? uve made this into a battlefield. also, it depends on the principles we're dealing with here. are we going to be in the UC universe or the CE universe, since each as different definitions of M. particles, as well as different elements. as far as we know, gundarium might actually NOT exist in CE, so there is no choice in the matter whether or not SF has super weak armor. oh, by the way, buff, you say fanboyism about Anonymous, but I thought I heard you say Hi-Nu FTW!!!
ReplyDeletelol i dont mind turning this place into a battlefield as long as it encourages intelligent debate! im going to SF simply because of the stomach cannon. I've always wanted a stomach cannon.
ReplyDeleteNext duel will be between Infinite Justice and...?
CHAR'S ZAKU II
ReplyDeleteDO IT.
No wait, scratch that.
ReplyDeleteSHIRO'S BALL OF DEATH
@Anon January 22, 2010 12:02 PM
ReplyDeleteThe gold inner frame was for the HiMAT according to some dude. Not sure tho, since I haven't seen much of GS and GSD.
According to the model's manual, Strike Freedom's golden joints is used to endure ultra-mobility beyond the limits of its design, as power is distributed across all parts, producing a luminescent effect in which light is emitted from the PS armor of the joints. This is similar to a chronogically earlier mobile suit, which announced to be one of the predecessors of the Strike Freedom, the DSSD's (Deep Space Survey and Development) GSX-401FW Stargazer, which also features golden body parts that seem to have some effect on the propulsion system. Also it was stated in the manual that activating HiMAT Full Burst mode and the Super DRAGOONs at the same time was virtually impossible unless the pilot was some sort of a super coordinator. When using its Voiture Lumiere to travel at high speeds, the Phase Shift Armor actually holds the mobile suit together.
ReplyDeleteI can say that Strike Freedom has the advantage in terms of armaments/weapons.. So probably Strike Freedom will win Hi-Nu Gundam in a gundam challenge without considering the pilots..
ReplyDeleteBut when it comes to Amuro vs Kira, I'd say Amuro will win.. So when those pilots enter their gundams and fight, I'd say the Hi-Nu will win..
I prefer Strike Freedom than Hi-Nu, and Kira is a very skilled pilot, but Amuro will win in a battle..
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